Its been a while since I have started playing Flames of War. I play the game mainly because of my love to history, strategic games and modeling (hmm, since my childhood days).
When I started, I was really impressed by FoW, mainly because it had a very comprehensive set of rules, but still keeping their complexity at a reasonable level. However, I have to admin that at the early days, some of them seemed a little bit strange for me, because I looked at them purely from the perspective of the history fan. Later, I understood that it is always a trade off between realism an playability (what is possible in computer games is not always fun on table...).
There were two things that I really appreciated in the game. Guys from Battlefront were able to create the system with very limited number of special rules - but still reasonably well corresponding to real battle conditions and specific characteristics of armies and their equipment. The second thing was the unique game balance - sometimes disputable from the historical perspective, but always fair for players. These two make it a perfect tournament game.
Unfortunately, since V3 was published things started to get worse in my opinion. New army books introduced more and more special rules. Sorry, but I don't have time to buy and read all the army books. It is really disappointing at tournament when your opponent starts to use some strange rules you don't know (even if he/she goes through them before the battle you don't have a chance to verify if the person understands the rules correctly). Moreover, I observe a tendency borrowed from the other well-known game publisher: publish a new army book, which is more powerful than the previous ones = make people buy more staff from you... Recently published "Rising sun" disappointed me even more... Are there any Japanese units that operate according to the standard rules only?
Of course, it doesn't mean that I'm going to stop playing FoW. I just need to try something fresh and more historically-oriented. Well, it seems that together with my colleague Kondziu, we found something worth of trying. It is the Battlegroup Kursk WWII system published by PSC.
I will for sure write more about this game in forthcoming weeks. What I can say at the beginning is that the rulebook is really nice (OK there are some typos, and text could be aligned better). The paper quality is really high, the photos are nice, but the rules are just awesome. I will just give couple of its main features and differences from FoW:
- Battle Rating System (BRS). Each unit that you include to a roster will provide you a certain amount of BR points (and of course, it will cost some army points). What is important core units give far more BR points than the supportive ones. It means that composing an army list with weak core units and "ultra powerful" support units is a risky business. Such company can be easily broken. Each time your unit is destroyed you have to toss a token which is either a number of BR points or a random event (e.g., vehicle breakdown, aircraft, etc.). If the total number of BR points in tokens is more than BR rating of your army, it means that your force is broken and you lost (something like company morale test in FoW). The great thing about the system is that you don't know the exact number of BR points your opponent has tossed so far.
- Turns - the gameplay is divided into turns. The main difference is that you can issue a "reactive order", which enables you to interrupt your opponent's turn. There are two types of this order: ambush or reserve move. It really increases the realism of the game. You have to take care how you move your units, e.g., if you just turn your tank and retreat, your opponent could interrupt your move and hit your tank from behind (of course if ambush order was issued).
- The pool of orders - at the start of each turn you roll to determine how many orders you can issue. Of course, the number of dices depends on the level of the game (platoon, company, etc.) and the number of officers you have (each adds +1 to the roll). Usually, you won't be able to issue orders to all units.
- Firing - you have two types of fire orders - area fire and aimed fire. The first one is used to pin down enemy units. It easier to hit the target (or actually the area), but the chance of killing someone is really low. The second one is used to inflict casualties. First, your unit has to spot the target. Well, it will be very difficult to spot a 3-men LMG team in wood, unless they start to fire... Then, you roll to hit, and finally enemy will roll their cover saves. Of course, there are lots of details I didn't provide you. Maybe I will just mention that each gun has its AP and HE capabilities. The first one depends on range. Each vehicle has its armor quality (front, side, and rear - which is also a top and bottom). At the beginning I thought it will take lots of time to look for results in the tables, but actually it's mainly about a two or three tables.
- Artillery - I would say it is a better version of FoW artillery. It is area fire, but calling for artillery has many stages - starting from trying to contact a certain level of command, through range in, up to the calculating hits for each salvo.
- Supply, medics, etc. - there is also a set of additional "logistic" units involved. For instance, your tanks have limited ammo. You will have to use your supply column to re-supply them. There are also medics, and many other special units.
It seems your sentiment is shared more widely than could be thought.ReplyDelete
The game has become far too complex than what it really needs to be.
-Chain of command
not sure I will be looking back all that soon :-/
Wow, a very impressive list. Apart from Bolt Action I haven't heard about the rest of the games :)Delete
I do agree 3rd edition has made too many changes and is why HOH comics continue to use 2nd ed which I think is better historically. Moreover, there are far too many special rules now some of which appear to conflict with main rule mechanics (Just look at the Japs). Ultimately, rules should be a guideline and with over 150 games played in our campaign and 95 comic AARs I think we have some experience now to comment.ReplyDelete
My opinion for what it is worth is dust off 2nd Ed and make some changes you like to clarify any ambiguity and enjoy recreating historic games etc which you can do easily with the scenarios.
All the best Hengist
I think there are many players who like to have lots of special rules - it makes armies unique. Personally, I agree with you that it makes the game over complicated, and there are too many of such rules in new FOW books.Delete
However, I feel that the pure 3rd version clarified lots of problems from the 2nd version. Still, pretty complicated set of rules...